Personality Couch
We all encounter personality conflict on a regular basis, whether we know it or not. From funky, can’t-quite-put-my-finger-on-it dynamics with that one friend or family member, to the big blowup drama at work with the last person you’d expect, it all comes down to personality. Join clinical psychologists, Dr. Rebecca Houvener, Psy.D, (“Doc Bok”) and Dr. Cheyenne Fisher, Psy.D., (“Doc Fish”) biweekly as they unpack the most complex topics like personality disorders and psychopathic behavior, while also making room for lighthearted discussions about personality typologies and humorous anecdotes from private practice. Whether you’re fascinated by personality darkness, a concerned friend or loved one, an “armchair psychologist,” or a licensed professional convinced there is something more going on with patients…. This show is for you.
Episodes

Tuesday Dec 16, 2025
Tuesday Dec 16, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the 6 subtypes of schizotypal personality disorder, according to Dr. Theodore Millon. We outline Millon’s take on “structurally defective structures” as being at risk of falling apart into psychosis at all levels of functioning, with the most severe levels of schizotypal deteriorating into schizophrenia. We then discuss the characteristics of mild, moderate, and severe subtypes, specifically: Disengaged Eccentrics, Apprehensive Eccentrics, the Insipid Schizotypal, the Timorous Schizotypal, the Immobile Schizophrenic, and the Disorganized Schizophrenic.
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Chapters00:00 Intro & History of Schizotypal Subtypes02:45 Theodore Millon’s Theory on Schizotypal Personality07:00 The Mild Eccentric Level 08:21 Disengaged Eccentrics 09:39 Apprehensive Eccentrics10:48 The Moderate Schizotypal Level 11:57 Insipid Schizotypal 18:17 Timorous Schizotypal21:26 The Severe Schizophrenic Level 22:56 Immobile Schizophrenic 26:08 Disorganized Schizophrenic29:05 Summary & Conclusion

Tuesday Dec 02, 2025
Tuesday Dec 02, 2025
In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive into the origins, diagnostic criteria, and oddities associated with schizotypal personality disorder and what it means to be almost psychotic, but not quite. We unpack idiosyncrasies and “cognitive slippage” of schizotypals that include odd speech patterns, suspiciousness, emotional expression, and social anxiety. This episode also highlights the importance of cultural context in diagnosis and not overpathologizing trends or religious norms. We also explore the overlap with and risk of schizophrenia in schizotypals, along with long-term implications of living in a quasi-psychotic cognitive space.
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Chapters00:00 Intro & History of Schizotypal Personality 01:15 DSM Criteria Schizotypal Personality 02:59 Ideas of Reference 05:35 Odd Beliefs and Magical Thinking 08:18 Exploring Cultural Oddities vs Psychosis 11:05 Unusual Perceptual Experiences 12:44 Odd Thinking & Speech 17:45 Suspiciousness and Paranoia 18:34 Emotional Expression, Behavior, and Appearance 20:13 Lack of Close Relationships and Anxiety23:42 Schizotypal Differential Diagnosis24:46 Schizotypals’ Relationship to Schizophrenia29:33 Summary and Conclusion

Tuesday Nov 18, 2025
Tuesday Nov 18, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) explore the origins and nuances of schizotypal personality disorder, its genetic links to schizophrenia, and the clinical observations that define it. We discuss the evolution of the term 'schizotypal' in the DSM, the implications of schizotypy, and how environmental factors and social learning influence its development. We also uncover observable traits of schizotypal individuals, their social interactions, and self-concept, providing a comprehensive overview of this intriguing personality disorder that is not quite psychotic, but close.
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Chapters00:00 Intro & History of Schizotypal Personality 01:34 Genetic Research on Schizotypal05:17 Clinical Research on Schizotypal08:47 Schizotypal in the DSM09:29 Schizotypy and Borderline Personality Organization12:17 Schizotypy Defined14:32 Schizotaxia Defined17:39 Schizotypic Endophenotypes Explained19:57 When Schizotypy Manifests21:28 Observable Traits of Schizotypal Personality Disorder30:44 Summary and Conclusion

Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) compare and contrast schizoid and schizotypal personality disorders, as well as schizophrenia. We define key terms, explore the overlap and differences among these disorders, and introduce the concept of schizotypy as a genetic predisposition towards schizophrenia. We further discuss the concept of schizotaxia, or “cognitive slippage” and the impact of birth trauma on schizo development. We also share our opinions about where schizoid fits on this continuum and if they are schizotypes or not.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction & Defining Terms 01:14 Schizoid Personality Defined 01:49 Schizotypal Personality Defined 06:30 Schizophrenia Defined09:05 Overlap of Schizoid, Schizotypal, & Schizophrenia12:48 Differences Among Schizoid, Schizotypal, & Schizophrenia14:34 Meehl’s Model of Schizotypy & Genetics 16:29 Schizotypy Defined20:00 Premature Birth & Low Birth Weight in Schizo Disorders22:39 Schizoids’ Unique Relationship to Schizotypy28:34 Summary & Conclusion

Tuesday Oct 21, 2025
Tuesday Oct 21, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) compare and contrast avoidant and schizoid personalities. While schizoid and avoidant personality disorders have overlapping traits but distinct characteristics, personality psychologists have argued about it for decades. In this episode, we explore the definitions of each disorder and ongoing debates surrounding if these disorders are the same thing or not. We end by sharing our thoughts about whether schizoid personality and avoidant personality are the same or different, while giving a critical opinion about the DSM’s limiting definitions of both.
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Chapters00:00 Intro & Schizoid and Avoidant Definitions02:29 Historical Context of Avoidant Personality Disorder04:31 Kretschmer's Theory & Anesthesia vs Hyperasthesia08:17 The Argument for Splitting or Merging Disorders10:51 Overlapping Symptoms of Avoidant and Schizoid11:49 Differences in Schizoid and Avoidant Personalities20:19 Our Opinions and Discussion35:21 Summary & Conclusion

Tuesday Oct 07, 2025
Tuesday Oct 07, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) take a critical look at the subtypes of schizoid personality, critiquing existing definitions and theories, particularly the 6 subtypes of Dr. Theodore Millon. We explore his mild, moderate, and severe subtypes: the Reserved Apathetic, Introspectively Apathetic, Remotely Asocial, Languidly Asocial, Depersonalized Schizoid, and Affectless Schizoid. We propose our own 5 subtypes and invite our schizoid listeners and viewers to share which type they identify with the most!
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Chapters00:00 Introduction & Schizoid Personality Recap02:21 Historical Subtypes - Brief Review03:09 Akhtar’s Covert & Overt Schizoid05:08 Understanding Millon’s Personality Theory07:51 Millon’s Mild Subtype: The Reserved Apathetic10:32 Millon’s Mild Subtype: The Introspectively Apathetic12:15 Millon’s Moderate Subtype: The Remotely Asocial 14:34 Millon’s Moderate Subtype: The Languidly Asocial16:52 Millon’s Severe Subtype: The Depersonalized Schizoid19:16 Millon’s Severe Subtype: The Affectless Schizoid22:04 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Master Masker25:19 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Quietly Antisocial27:38 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Depressive Schizoid30:08 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Slothy Schizoid32:03 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Scattered Professor34:25 Conclusion and Listener Engagement

Tuesday Sep 23, 2025
Tuesday Sep 23, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) answer your most-asked questions about schizoid personality. We address misconceptions about schizoid and settle its pronunciation debate (is it skii-zoid or skitz-oid?). We also explore the significant role (or not) of maternal relationships in schizoid’s development. Relatedly, we take a critical look at emotional expression, where we discuss the impact of gender expectations, and the nuanced understanding of fear of intrusion. We further explore power dynamics at play in schizoid behavior, their expression of anger, and how this personality navigates our highly social world.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality00:50 Pronunciation of Schizoid04:19 How The Hosts Know About Schizoid09:54 The Role of Masking in Schizoid Personalities13:16 Gender Differences in Schizoid Expression14:46 Does Mom Really Matter? 16:52 Alternative Pathways to Schizoid Development24:04 Power Dynamics, Fear, & Control in Schizoid Behavior30:00 Anger & Emotional Expression in Schizoids34:02 Schizoid & The Big 5 Personality (OCEAN)35:18 Schizoids & Raisins37:05 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

Tuesday Sep 09, 2025
Tuesday Sep 09, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the differences and similarities between schizoid personality disorder and autism spectrum disorder, and whether you can be diagnosed with both. We start by discussing the limitations of current research before investigating the underlying causes of social withdrawal seen in both conditions. We conclude by emphasizing that while they may share observable traits, their origins and implications are fundamentally different.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid & Autism00:58 Problems with ASD & SzPD research04:42 Autistic Thinking Defined05:26 Autistic Fantasy Defined05:54 Autism Name Origins 06:25 Autistic Contiguous Position Defined08:22 Similarities b/w Autism & Schizoid10:54 Genetics & Etiological Differences 11:40 Schizophrenia’s Genetics 12:37 Autism Genetics14:50 Can Schizoid and Autism Co-Occur?17:58 Development of ASD vs SzPD 18:46 Imagination in Schizoid vs ASD 19:08 Late Diagnosing of ASD + Cultural Trends21:24 Viewer Question: Phantasy of the Schizoid25:18 Mirror Neurons in ASD vs SzPD28:05 Our Thoughts About Dual ASD & SzPD Diagnoses36:05 Summary & Conclusion

Tuesday Aug 26, 2025
Tuesday Aug 26, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) use a fresh psychodynamic perspective to look at the misunderstood, quiet, awkward, and socially backwards schizoid. We explore the misunderstandings and stigmas surrounding schizoids, their emotional depth, and the historical perspectives that have shaped our understanding of this personality type. Our conversation highlights the internal struggles of schizoids, their coping mechanisms, and the rich inner lives they lead, often hidden from the outside world. We also take a look at the superpower of the schizoid and how they spot others’ disingenuousness. We emphasize the unique internal experiences of schizoids and the need for a compassionate approach in relationships and in clinical practice.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality01:42 What do Schizoids Look Like?03:30 Stigmatization of Schizoids05:05 Historical Names & Schizoids’ Discovery 06:18 Kahlbaum’s Heboid Personality 06:47 Hoch’s Shut In Personality 07:05 Kraeplin’s Mildly Defective Personality 07:26 Bleuler’s Schizoidie Personality 08:07 Jung’s Introverted Personality09:12 Menninger & Schizoid’s False Shell / Exterior09:52 Winnicott & Schizoid's False Self10:35 Guntrip on Depression & Anhedonia in Schizoids12:26 Schizoids as Therapists13:40 Akhtar’s Overt & Covert Personality Features15:08 Nancy McWilliams’ Psychodynamic Schizoid 15:43 Attachment’s Influence on Schizoid 16:25 Schizoid’s Core Fears 18:32 Schizoid and Histrionic Connection 19:40 Schizoid’s Defense Mechanisms23:03 Sense of Self & Castle Metaphor24:08 Schizoid vs Obsessive Compulsive Personalities24:38 The Colorful Inner World of Schizoids27:40 Schizoids’ Superpower30:30 Summary and Conclusion

Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive into one of the most misunderstood personalities: the quiet, awkward, and socially backwards schizoid. We take a critical look at the DSM’s definition of this personality; the developmental pathways leading to schizoid traits; and the unique and complex inner world of schizoids. Using a turtle metaphor, we explore how schizoids resort to fantasy and withdraw inside their shell, escaping from the overwhelming social world. We also explore how schizoid types are often mislabeled as having autism and briefly discuss their differences. We conclude by discussing reasons for the schizoid’s withdrawal, highlighting that our global misunderstanding of this type drives them further away from relationships and from psychological help.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality03:45 Attachment Trauma in Schizoids05:50 Schizoids are Like Turtles 07:18 Problems with the DSM-5 Schizoid08:41 Psychodynamic Schizoid: A Conflict-Based Approach10:33 Schizoid vs Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)15:57 DSM Criteria for Schizoid Personality Disorder 19:41 The Challenges of Goal Setting 20:48 Decreased Sexual Desire 22:04 Sherlock Holmes: The Quintessential Schizoid 23:20 Anhedonia vs Depression in Schizoids 25:02 Difficulty Forming / Indifference to Relationships 30:33 Emotional Coldness and Detachment 33:53 Anger & Joy in Schizoids 37:36 Not Psychosis or Autism38:36 Summary & Closing








