Personality Couch
We all encounter personality conflict on a regular basis, whether we know it or not. From funky, can’t-quite-put-my-finger-on-it dynamics with that one friend or family member, to the big blowup drama at work with the last person you’d expect, it all comes down to personality. Join clinical psychologists, Dr. Rebecca Houvener, Psy.D, (“Doc Bok”) and Dr. Cheyenne Fisher, Psy.D., (“Doc Fish”) biweekly as they unpack the most complex topics like personality disorders and psychopathic behavior, while also making room for lighthearted discussions about personality typologies and humorous anecdotes from private practice. Whether you’re fascinated by personality darkness, a concerned friend or loved one, an “armchair psychologist,” or a licensed professional convinced there is something more going on with patients…. This show is for you.
Episodes

Oct 21, 2025
Oct 21, 2025
37 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) compare and contrast avoidant and schizoid personalities. While schizoid and avoidant personality disorders have overlapping traits but distinct characteristics, personality psychologists have argued about it for decades. In this episode, we explore the definitions of each disorder and ongoing debates surrounding if these disorders are the same thing or not. We end by sharing our thoughts about whether schizoid personality and avoidant personality are the same or different, while giving a critical opinion about the DSM’s limiting definitions of both.
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Chapters00:00 Intro & Schizoid and Avoidant Definitions02:29 Historical Context of Avoidant Personality Disorder04:31 Kretschmer's Theory & Anesthesia vs Hyperasthesia08:17 The Argument for Splitting or Merging Disorders10:51 Overlapping Symptoms of Avoidant and Schizoid11:49 Differences in Schizoid and Avoidant Personalities20:19 Our Opinions and Discussion35:21 Summary & Conclusion

Oct 7, 2025
Oct 7, 2025
36 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) take a critical look at the subtypes of schizoid personality, critiquing existing definitions and theories, particularly the 6 subtypes of Dr. Theodore Millon. We explore his mild, moderate, and severe subtypes: the Reserved Apathetic, Introspectively Apathetic, Remotely Asocial, Languidly Asocial, Depersonalized Schizoid, and Affectless Schizoid. We propose our own 5 subtypes and invite our schizoid listeners and viewers to share which type they identify with the most!
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Chapters00:00 Introduction & Schizoid Personality Recap02:21 Historical Subtypes - Brief Review03:09 Akhtar’s Covert & Overt Schizoid05:08 Understanding Millon’s Personality Theory07:51 Millon’s Mild Subtype: The Reserved Apathetic10:32 Millon’s Mild Subtype: The Introspectively Apathetic12:15 Millon’s Moderate Subtype: The Remotely Asocial 14:34 Millon’s Moderate Subtype: The Languidly Asocial16:52 Millon’s Severe Subtype: The Depersonalized Schizoid19:16 Millon’s Severe Subtype: The Affectless Schizoid22:04 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Master Masker25:19 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Quietly Antisocial27:38 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Depressive Schizoid30:08 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Slothy Schizoid32:03 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Scattered Professor34:25 Conclusion and Listener Engagement

Sep 23, 2025
Sep 23, 2025
38 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) answer your most-asked questions about schizoid personality. We address misconceptions about schizoid and settle its pronunciation debate (is it skii-zoid or skitz-oid?). We also explore the significant role (or not) of maternal relationships in schizoid’s development. Relatedly, we take a critical look at emotional expression, where we discuss the impact of gender expectations, and the nuanced understanding of fear of intrusion. We further explore power dynamics at play in schizoid behavior, their expression of anger, and how this personality navigates our highly social world.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality00:50 Pronunciation of Schizoid04:19 How The Hosts Know About Schizoid09:54 The Role of Masking in Schizoid Personalities13:16 Gender Differences in Schizoid Expression14:46 Does Mom Really Matter? 16:52 Alternative Pathways to Schizoid Development24:04 Power Dynamics, Fear, & Control in Schizoid Behavior30:00 Anger & Emotional Expression in Schizoids34:02 Schizoid & The Big 5 Personality (OCEAN)35:18 Schizoids & Raisins37:05 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

Sep 9, 2025
Sep 9, 2025
37 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the differences and similarities between schizoid personality disorder and autism spectrum disorder, and whether you can be diagnosed with both. We start by discussing the limitations of current research before investigating the underlying causes of social withdrawal seen in both conditions. We conclude by emphasizing that while they may share observable traits, their origins and implications are fundamentally different.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid & Autism00:58 Problems with ASD & SzPD research04:42 Autistic Thinking Defined05:26 Autistic Fantasy Defined05:54 Autism Name Origins 06:25 Autistic Contiguous Position Defined08:22 Similarities b/w Autism & Schizoid10:54 Genetics & Etiological Differences 11:40 Schizophrenia’s Genetics 12:37 Autism Genetics14:50 Can Schizoid and Autism Co-Occur?17:58 Development of ASD vs SzPD 18:46 Imagination in Schizoid vs ASD 19:08 Late Diagnosing of ASD + Cultural Trends21:24 Viewer Question: Phantasy of the Schizoid25:18 Mirror Neurons in ASD vs SzPD28:05 Our Thoughts About Dual ASD & SzPD Diagnoses36:05 Summary & Conclusion

Aug 26, 2025
Aug 26, 2025
32 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) use a fresh psychodynamic perspective to look at the misunderstood, quiet, awkward, and socially backwards schizoid. We explore the misunderstandings and stigmas surrounding schizoids, their emotional depth, and the historical perspectives that have shaped our understanding of this personality type. Our conversation highlights the internal struggles of schizoids, their coping mechanisms, and the rich inner lives they lead, often hidden from the outside world. We also take a look at the superpower of the schizoid and how they spot others’ disingenuousness. We emphasize the unique internal experiences of schizoids and the need for a compassionate approach in relationships and in clinical practice.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality01:42 What do Schizoids Look Like?03:30 Stigmatization of Schizoids05:05 Historical Names & Schizoids’ Discovery 06:18 Kahlbaum’s Heboid Personality 06:47 Hoch’s Shut In Personality 07:05 Kraeplin’s Mildly Defective Personality 07:26 Bleuler’s Schizoidie Personality 08:07 Jung’s Introverted Personality09:12 Menninger & Schizoid’s False Shell / Exterior09:52 Winnicott & Schizoid's False Self10:35 Guntrip on Depression & Anhedonia in Schizoids12:26 Schizoids as Therapists13:40 Akhtar’s Overt & Covert Personality Features15:08 Nancy McWilliams’ Psychodynamic Schizoid 15:43 Attachment’s Influence on Schizoid 16:25 Schizoid’s Core Fears 18:32 Schizoid and Histrionic Connection 19:40 Schizoid’s Defense Mechanisms23:03 Sense of Self & Castle Metaphor24:08 Schizoid vs Obsessive Compulsive Personalities24:38 The Colorful Inner World of Schizoids27:40 Schizoids’ Superpower30:30 Summary and Conclusion

Aug 12, 2025
Aug 12, 2025
40 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive into one of the most misunderstood personalities: the quiet, awkward, and socially backwards schizoid. We take a critical look at the DSM’s definition of this personality; the developmental pathways leading to schizoid traits; and the unique and complex inner world of schizoids. Using a turtle metaphor, we explore how schizoids resort to fantasy and withdraw inside their shell, escaping from the overwhelming social world. We also explore how schizoid types are often mislabeled as having autism and briefly discuss their differences. We conclude by discussing reasons for the schizoid’s withdrawal, highlighting that our global misunderstanding of this type drives them further away from relationships and from psychological help.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality03:45 Attachment Trauma in Schizoids05:50 Schizoids are Like Turtles 07:18 Problems with the DSM-5 Schizoid08:41 Psychodynamic Schizoid: A Conflict-Based Approach10:33 Schizoid vs Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)15:57 DSM Criteria for Schizoid Personality Disorder 19:41 The Challenges of Goal Setting 20:48 Decreased Sexual Desire 22:04 Sherlock Holmes: The Quintessential Schizoid 23:20 Anhedonia vs Depression in Schizoids 25:02 Difficulty Forming / Indifference to Relationships 30:33 Emotional Coldness and Detachment 33:53 Anger & Joy in Schizoids 37:36 Not Psychosis or Autism38:36 Summary & Closing

Jul 29, 2025
Jul 29, 2025
28 min
In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, I (licensed clinical psychologist, Doc Bok) take a different approach and lean into the clinical practice part of this podcast. I spill the tea on significant changes in the healthcare landscape, particularly focusing on the rise of telehealth and the influence of venture capital-backed mega telehealth companies. I highlight the conflicts of interest with wealthy investors, ethical and privacy concerns, and market consolidation that threaten the integrity of mental health care and private practice as we know it. This episode emphasizes the importance of patient and clinician awareness, and I provide actionable steps to navigate the evolving healthcare environment.
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Chapters00:00 Healthcare Changes Post Pandemic03:24 What is a Venture Capital Company?04:13 How Venture Capital Telehealth is Different From Private Practice05:29 Meet the Telehealth Companies’ Investors08:02 Conflicts of Interest for Investors09:52 Privacy Concerns12:19 Ethical Concerns 14:28 Market Consolidation19:02 Vertical Integration20:09 Therapists’ Stories & Lawsuits23:12 What Can Patients Do?24:08 What Can Clinicians Do?

Jul 15, 2025
Jul 15, 2025
41 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive deep into the dark end of the paranoid personality spectrum, focusing on three notorious cases of mass murder: Jeffrey Weise (school shooter), Richard Farley (jilted lover), and Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City bomber). We explore the psychological underpinnings of each of these severe paranoid personalities, the impact of childhood trauma, and how their psyches came unglued. We firstly look at the case of Weise, a 16-year-old school shooter who experienced significant childhood trauma and rejection at the hands of his family. We then turn to look at Farley, an incredibly dangerous example of how erotomania, or extreme unrequited love, can turn into your worst nightmare. Lastly, we take a close look at the infamous Timothy McVeigh, a domestic terrorist obsessed with fantasy, fiction, and comics about revenge. Separating from the Army, but desperate to be a hero, he found an enemy in the very US Government that he used to defend. Our discussion emphasizes that while not all paranoid personalities are violent (most aren’t), paranoid personalities in forensic settings can quickly unravel, making them among the most likely to commit mass murder.
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Paranoid Personalities and Violence02:07 Childhood Trauma’s Impact05:00 Case Study: Jeffrey Weise - The Traumatized Killer 05:37 Weise’s background 07:52 The Day of the Shooting 10:18 Motivations 11:11 Analysis & Discussion14:00 Case Study: Richard Farley - The Rejected Lover 14:50 Farley’s obsession with Laura Black 17:45 The Day of the Shooting 21:50 Farley’s Motivations 23:30 Analysis & Discussion 24:46 Masochistic Infatuation Defined 25:18 Erotomania Explained27:22 Case Study: Timothy McVeigh: The Oklahoma City Bomber 27:44 Background 33:07 Leading up to the Bombing 36:48 Motivations 38:30 Analysis & Discussion40:19 Summary & Conclusions

Jul 1, 2025
Jul 1, 2025
29 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack how paranoia, paranoid personalities, and psychotic disorders overlap. We explore the line between personality disorders and psychosis; misuse of the term schizophrenia; and introduce the concept of paraphrenia as it relates to psychosis in the paranoid personality. We also explore the historical context of paranoia, the nuances between paranoia and delusions, and how the terms became so intertwined in history. We end with our own unfiltered thoughts about limitations to DSM diagnostic categories and how paranoia became so confusing!
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Chapters00:00 Introduction to Paranoia and Psychosis02:14 Defining Paranoia03:15 Sociocultural Paranoia: The Salem Witch Trials04:22 How Paranoia Leads to Psychosis: A Train Metaphor06:51 Defining Delusions 08:21 Persecutory Delusions 08:55 Delusions of Grandeur 09:32 Jealous Delusions 10:01 Erotomanic Delusions12:01 When Paranoia Becomes a Diagnosis13:14 Paranoia in Personality Disorders14:34 Wait- Paranoid Schizophrenia is NOT a Diagnosis?!16:03 Defining Paraphrenia16:43 Defining Schizophrenia17:54 How is Paranoid Personality Disorder Different from Schizophrenia?22:50 The Difference Between Schizophrenia and Paraphrenia23:11 Confusion in Definitions and DSM Limitations27:24 Closing

Jun 17, 2025
Jun 17, 2025
38 min
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) continue our discussion about paranoid personality disorder, exploring its three severity levels: Mild, Borderline, and Paraphrenic. We unpack the six subtypes of paranoid personalities as outlined by Dr. Theodore Millon: The Self-Righteous Mistrustful, The Obdurate Mistrustful, the Querulous Paranoid, the Insular Paranoid, the severe Fanatic Paraphrenic, and Malignant Paraphrenic. We highlight the fragility of Paranoids at all levels of severity, noting they can easily deteriorate with stressors and setbacks. We emphasize the importance of understanding these very common personality dynamics in all settings, especially with increasing paranoia in the post-pandemic world.
Are you a clinician stuck on a case? To schedule a consultation, please visit the practice website, which will guide you to the email address to use. www.questpsych.org
Chapters00:00 Introduction to Paranoid Personality Disorder03:44 Paranoid Personality Disorder Symptoms06:03 Historical Examples 06:09 Timothy McVeigh - Oklahoma City Bombings 06:36 Richard Farley - Erotomania07:52 Explaining the 3 Severity Levels09:30 Mild Paranoid Personalities: Mistrustful Types10:16 Self-Righteous Subtype14:28 Obdurate Subtype17:14 Moderate Paranoid Personalities: Disorder Level 17:44 Querulous Subtype 21:32 Insular Subtype23:52 Severe Paranoid Personalities: Paraphrenic Level 25:44 Fanatic Subtype 30:57 Malignant Subtype36:12 Summary & Conclusion








